The version found in the Book of Common Prayer is still commonly used by some English speakers, but more modern translations are now more common. The International Consultation on English Texts published an English translation of the Nicene Creed, first in and then in successive revisions in and These texts were adopted by several churches.
The Roman Catholic Church in the United States, which adopted the version in , and the Catholic Church in other English-speaking countries, which in adopted the version published in that year, continued to use them until , when it replaced them with the version in the Roman Missal third edition. The version was included in the Episcopal Church United States Book of Common Prayer , but with one variation: in the line "For us men and for our salvation", it omitted the word "men". From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Statement of belief adopted at the First Ecumenical Council in Main article: Filioque.
Main article: English versions of the Nicene Creed. In Herbermann, Charles ed. Catholic Encyclopedia. New York: Robert Appleton.brutopesfelong.ml/a-bilingual-adventure-in-wonderland.php
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The meaning "something which stands for something else" first recorded in "Faerie Queene". Symbolic is attested from Online Etymology Dictionary. Douglas Harper, Historian. Accessed: 24 March Rebecca The Cambridge History of Christianity. Retrieved 30 November Volume II.
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The History of Creeds". Christian Classics Ethereal Library. Early Christian Creeds Longmans pp. Arius SCM 2nd Edn pp. Instances of the former are in the Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Church and in the Roman Missal , while the latter is used consistently by the Faith and Order Commission. Retrieved 29 October Retrieved 16 June Early Christian Creeds Longmans 2 pp. The Council of Ephesus, p.
The Seven Ecumenical Councils". Gregory of Nazianzus, Oratio 39 in sancta lumina , in Patrologia Graeca , ed. Migne, vol. Inasmuch as he is not begotten, he is not the Son; inasmuch as he is the middle of the Unbegotten and the Begotten, he is God].
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Gregory of Nazianzen, as seen in the passage from Oratio 39 cited above. It claims that the Son is subordinate to the Father, so much so that the Son is a mere creature. Orthodox in the sense of non-heterodox Trinitarian doctrine teaches that the Persons are distinct from each other only as regards their mutual relations.
If the Father has the power to communicate the Divine essence to the Holy Spirit which is the same thing as saying that the Holy Spirit proceeds — in the Latin sense — from the Father , it follows that the Son must have exactly the same power, since Father and Son are the same in every respect except in their mutual relation. Denying this by denying the Filioque , Catholic doctrine would argue, would make the Son subordinate to the Father, as in Arianism.
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First of all you should note that about 50 years ago the mass was in Latin language so using the Creed in local language is quite new. In my youth in the s the Apostle's Creed was already more common than the Nicene Creed which was only rarely used in that time so the change you are describing must have begun directly after changing from Latin to local language. In the parish where I grow up the Nicene Creed was nearly never used in the s.
And when I was going to the mass in other cities I had the same impression. Some theologian told me that sometimes the church law is changed to allow something which is already "illegally" done in many parishes for more than 30 years.
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If it is true that using the Apostle's Creed in the mass was not officially allowed before or then this change of the church law seems to be one example for such a change. And I doubt that in such cases you'll find any written document that describes why something is done:. When such a practice begins it is illegal according to the church law.
So nobody dares to write some document why this is done. And 30 years later when the practice is officially allowed nobody can remember why and how everything started 30 years before. I have a very strong suspicion why the Apostle's Creed is commonly used in German speaking countries. It's some ambiguous sentences in the German translation of the Nicene Creed. I can't judge other translations. And this of course implies that you understand what you are saying. Now let's have a look at the German translation of the Nicene Creed. As an example you'll find these words:. Having compared the English to the German translation I suspect a "simple" translation problem here: The word "gezeugt" definitely does not match what is written in the English translation!
I myself understand the German translation of the sentence in a way that Jesus Christ did not exist at the beginning of the universe but he is the result of a random biological process. Either you say the Creed in the mass - than you say that you believe in something you actually don't believe in. Or you don't say the Creed that's what I do if the Nicene Creed is used - then it will be rather silent in the church. Maybe this is the reason why priests in the parishes started to use the Apostle's Creed instead of the Nicene Creed in the end of the s in Germany.
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Both creeds continue to be used in many Christian traditions, so we need more information to be able to understand what you mean. I'd expect that this varies widely across Catholicism.
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Can you edit this to add any source showing that most Catholic Churches don't regularly say the Nicene Creed? I had the opportunity to be in seven churches in my area including the church adjacent to my Catholic School. And mostly we said Apostle's Creed. So just out of curiosity wanted to know why did this change take place? Where is your "area", mvr? I haven't noticed any change in my area Maine, USA. Our church says the Nicene Creed.
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